{"id":1297,"date":"2010-06-15T11:53:54","date_gmt":"2010-06-15T11:53:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.newlistener.co.uk\/home\/?p=1297"},"modified":"2010-06-15T11:59:31","modified_gmt":"2010-06-15T11:59:31","slug":"lottery-inquiry-into-pect-sculpture-commission","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newlistener.co.uk\/home\/lottery-inquiry-into-pect-sculpture-commission\/","title":{"rendered":"Lottery Inquiry into PECT Sculpture Commission"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"visibility: visible;\">The debate continues between Hugh Cripps from Peterborough Environment City Trust and Robert Erskine creator of the Power Rhythm Sculpture over the commission and subsequent handling of the sculpture as <a rel=\"noindex,nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk\/news\/lottery_probe_into_care_of_sculpture_1_650973\" target=\"new\">unconfirmed reports claim<\/a> that the National Lottery will inquire into the facts. It is <a rel=\"noindex,nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk\/news\/sculpture_row_comes_to_an_end_1_644292\" target=\"new\">reported<\/a> that PECT received \u00a3100,000 for the sculpture and paid the artist \u00a311,000 for the work which cost \u00a335,000 in total. The following interview with Robert Erskine was broadcast at 07:20 on 2nd June 2010 in the Peterborough Breakfast Show hosted by Andy Gall on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire and includes a statement from PECT.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nANDY: An ownership dispute over one of the city&#8217;s most prominent statues has been resolved. Sculptor Robert Erskine had a buyer for his artwork, Power Rhythm, which is on the Eye roundabout, but Peterborough Environment City Trust has now proved that they own it. Robert Erskine can speak to us now. Good morning Robert.<br \/>\nROBERT: Hello. A very good morning to you.<br \/>\nANDY: Good morning to you as well. So the stake question has been ironed out then. You don&#8217;t own it.<br \/>\nROBERT: Well I suppose you could say that I don&#8217;t actually own the sculpture in the sense that Mr Cripps of Peterborough Environmental (sic) City Trust has finally sent me a little letter with his lovely signature at the bottom just saying &#8220;we own the sculpture&#8221;. But there&#8217;s a bit of a twist to this story because as was reported in yesterday&#8217;s Peterborough Evening Telegraph, he states in his final line of the report that the Peterborough Environmental City Trust does not own and maintain sculptures anywhere in Peterborough. So there&#8217;s a lot of confusion, and ..<br \/>\nANDY: There&#8217;s a lot of semantics involved in this isn&#8217;t there. We don&#8217;t really know where we are. But we know that you .. there must have been a transaction between you and PECT to a certain extent that took ownership of this. There&#8217;s a transaction. It&#8217;s like when you sell a car, you shake a hand with somebody and there&#8217;s an exchange of money. Because you&#8217;ve been paid for this, haven&#8217;t you?<br \/>\nROBERT: I was paid eleven thousand pounds back in nineteen ninety nine two thousand to design, create over four months, and train two young apprentice engineers to assist me as part of the remit, in making the sculpture, which I was awarded having won a national competition to design the sculpture. I was paid eleven thousand pounds. I never received a contract. I was never given any paperwork. I never even received, peculiarly, a thank you from anybody at the Peterborough Environmental City Trust, who I was given to understand I was working with. And  you must understand that historically there&#8217;s been a very peculiar situation here, because during the period that the sculpture was being made residents will remember that the newspapers had a very vicious attack on the sculpture, particularly me, whilst it was being made. And never once did Peterborough ever come to my assistance, or report on anything, or even answer any of the adverse criticism that was going on. So when the scukpture was finally finished, I just assumed that it belonged to the people of Peterborough, and as the National Lottery paid Peterborough Environmental City Trust the funding, there were a couple of other parties, that it belonged to Peterborough.<br \/>\nANDY: Robert, I get the impression that .. it claims here that you&#8217;d lined  up another buyer for it.<br \/>\nROBERT: No. What had actually happened was for eleven years this sculpture has remained unfinished. The lighting has never been installed. The gravel around the base which is meant to be bonded has never been put in place, it&#8217;s never been maintained in the sense of having the graffiti removed. And very simply for eleven years I&#8217;ve asked continually PECT, that&#8217;s Peterborough Environmental City Trust, could you please put these things right and finish the sculpture. They have ignored all my requests. So when somebody approached me several months ago, and asked was the sculpture available for purchase, I thought, well, nobody is maintaining it. PECT say it has nothing to do with them in terms of them never finishing it, and never answering my requests, i just felt it was appropriate that I put in place a process for somebody to aquire the sculpture.<br \/>\nANDY: Ok. Alkright. It&#8217;s like the shifting sands here. We don&#8217;t know where we are.<br \/>\nROBERT: Well I&#8217;ll tell you what I don&#8217;t understand is Mr Cripps&#8217; statement in the Peterborough Evening Telegraph yesterday, and it&#8217;s there for everybody to see. He states quite categorically, his last line is, PECT do not own and maintain artworks. So therein is the answer. There is a mystery going on. This story is far from over.<br \/>\nANDY: Robert, PECT say they&#8217;re in talks with Sculpture Trust about the future of the sculpture, and think that they&#8217;ve planned for the Trust to look after the sculpture.<br \/>\nROBERT: Well I don&#8217;t trust them. Why has it taken them eleven years to suddenly turn round when a buyer comes along and say, oh, we&#8217;re going to have discussions now, suddenly, with the Peterborough Sculpture Trust? Look, I don&#8217;t trust Mr Cripps. I think Mr Cripps is a very very slippery customer.<br \/>\nANDY: Well you&#8217;ve got to be careful here, because Mr Cripps isn&#8217;t here to defend himself, though Robert.<br \/>\nROBERT: I&#8217;m sure he will be able to defend himself. He has accused me on your programme and on BBC television, of being a spiv, and I quote him. Mr Erskine is a gentleman who &#8230;<br \/>\nANDY: Be careful because .. no ..no .. can&#8217;t do that Robert I&#8217;m afraid, because Mr Cripps isn&#8217;t here to defend himself, so we&#8217;ll have to leave that there I&#8217;m afraid. But Hugh Cripps, the Chief Executive of PECT did say that, &#8220;<em>I am pleased that it has been confirmed that PECT own the statue. We will now hold discussions with the Peterborough Sculpture Trust to see what the next stage is with the handover. Those discussions will include who is in charge of the maintenance. PECT is not an organisation that owns and maintains art pieces.<\/em>&#8220;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The debate continues between Hugh Cripps from Peterborough Environment City Trust and Robert Erskine creator of the Power Rhythm Sculpture over the commission and subsequent handling of the sculpture as unconfirmed reports claim that the National Lottery will inquire into the facts. It is widely reported that PECT received \u00a3100,000 for the scupture and paid the sculptor \u00a311,000 for the work which cost \u00a335,000 in total. 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